True or false: Catholics aren't defined by the bible, the bible was defined by Catholics?

It seems that there are a lot of people that aren't aware of where their religious beliefs come from, so to those people I ask this question, which came first, the Catholic or the bible?True or false: Catholics aren't defined by the bible, the bible was defined by Catholics?
The Catholic of course.True or false: Catholics aren't defined by the bible, the bible was defined by Catholics?
The Catholic church undoubtedly created the Bible out of the numerous religious texts that were around at the time, discarding those that were ';embarassing'; or ';inconvenient';.





The Canon has changed a number of times. In his Easter letter of 367, Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, gave a list of the books that would become the New Testament as we now know it. He was definitely a Catholic.
This is partially true. With the definition of Christian being Christ like, most Christians fall short. Although you must frame them in the right context. They are normal people who have been adopted into a different family. Most all of them will take years to acclimate and understand what that new family is all about. All of them will still mack dumb mistakes and say stupid things. Yet the father who adopted them is perfect. It is not the adopted who is perfect but the adopter. So to understand the adopted you must study the father of the family which is God.
The Roman Catholic Church argues that Scripture was given to men by the Church and therefore the Church has equal or greater authority to it. However, even among the Roman Catholic Church’s writings (from the First Vatican Council), you will find the acknowledgment that the Church councils that determined which books were to be considered the Word of God did nothing but recognize what the Holy Spirit had already made evident. That is, the Church did not “give” Scriptures to men, but simply “recognized” what God, through the Holy Spirit, had already given. As A. A. Hodge states, when a peasant recognizes a prince and is able to call him by name, it does not give him the right to rule over the kingdom. In like fashion, a church council recognizing which books were God-breathed and possessed the traits of a God-inspired book, it does not give the church council equal authority with those books.
It was only around the second century that the catholic clergy class began to appear.


In the early second century C.E., Ignatius, “bishop” of Antioch, wrote about a three-grade hierarchy of bishops, presbyters (priests) and deacons.


The last book of the Bible ';Revelation'; was written by 96 CE.


Thus the Catholics church was not involved in writing the Bible.
Anyone that has honestly studied history and the evolution of religious beliefs knows that it was the Roman backed ';Universal'; or in Latin ';Catholic'; Christian Church that followed the orders of the Emperor and produced a set of scriptures that all churches would agree were ';authentic'; even if they had to alter, modify, edit, twist, change, and rewrite them to do it.
The earliest full canon of the Bible was canonized by St. Athanasius of Alexandria. That was in AD 367. The Church (which I, as Orthodox, would consider the Orthodox Church and the Catholics would consider the Catholic Church) began at Pentecost, which was roughly AD 33.





The Church wrote the Bible.





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Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me the sinner
supposedly the congregation of people that decided what to include or what to exclude from the bible 100+ years after Jesus was crucified, were guided by the spirit of God in writing the bible. But historically their motivation was purely political. As that's the point when, Mary Magdalene was stripped from follower of Jesus(and most likely his wife), and became a prostitute.
The Catholic because the Church compiled all the gospels and books into the bible that we all know and love today. Even all the Protestants bibles came from Catholics minus the 7 books that they took out.
true!





I know what you mean, you don't have to be Catholic or an ex-Catholic to know facts if you're really willing to educate yourself about them.
Here's another:





All Catholics are Christians.


Not all Christians are Catholic.
True.





Peace!
Your right
The Church
If you want the truth, the plain truth, and nothing but the truth as determined by historical evidence, the Bible that is the ';source of authority'; for Protestants was edicted, revised, doctored, distorted and finally compiled by the Church of Rome. It was the Church of Rome and her elders that determined what books got in the canon and which did not.





The Bible is itself a doctorced edited work of pure propaganda whose documents are virtually all forgeries [use of the name of a phony author] and has no more relevance to reality than Barney the Dinosaur. The Church Fathers ';created'; a religion about a man named Jesus of Nazareth but which is NOT in actuality the religion OF the man himself which was Judaism.





If you want to be like Jesus, follow the path Jesus followed, then you'd be a Jew. What you have in Christianity is an invented dogma, a fictitious history that basically buried the real Jesus in a deluge of myth and outright lies, which was created to keep the masses of people in ignorance and give to the Church the power it stole from the people and from God.





After initial persecutions by pagan Rome, the Christians through the logical system of converting kings and emperors who then can force the entire population to accept their faith, got Constantine converted. In half no-time, the small-time persecutions of Christians for political reasons came to an end. Now the Church backed by the might of Imperial Rome banned paganism and it was at this time over 300 years AFTER the death of Jesus of Nazareth that an ';official'; religion was invented with ';official'; texts and an ';official'; policy and the Coliseum now began to flow with the blood of heretics and criminals who had commited the multitude of new crimes that now got the death penalty [like being homosexual] that in pagan Rome were punished mildly or not at all.
Christianity was on scene before that heresy called catholicsm. Catholic priests have twisted scripture so badly that most of the catholic church are lost, and only members or a social organization.